Aelf Blademaster Bard

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Aelf Blademaster Bard

Post by Haliit » Fri Jul 18, 2014 11:49 am

Never made a Bard before so I wanted to try one.

Focused on weapon damage (I've done way too many int/proc rogues). Would appreciate some critique/tips.

Aelfborn Rogue Bard

------Applied Runes-------

Lucky
Tough as Nails
Military Training
Healthy as an Ox
Great Constitution
Blade Master
Black Mask
Bounty Hunter
Legendary Dexterity

----------Stats-----------

Strength: 35/95
Dexterity: 155/155
Constitution: 130/130
Intelligence: 70/105
Spirit: 20/85

----------Skills----------

Wear Armor, Light 137% (96 trains)
Sword 129% (91 trains)
Dodge 130% (91 trains)
Bardsong 57% (30 trains)
Blade Mastery 131% (46 trains)*this % is with 2 for 1 Blademastery trains in RiF

----------Powers----------

Hide 18 (Journeyman)
Sneak 40 (Grand Master)
Ashton Kai's Irresistable Dance 20 (Journeyman)
Countersong 40 (Grand Master)
Dread Dissonance 5 (Beginner)
Pallando's Pernicious Puns 1 (Untrained)
Ragnor's Rede of Rending 40 (Grand Master)
Ritardando 40 (Grand Master)
Find Weakness 20 (Journeyman)
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Re: Aelf Blademaster Bard

Post by tooshifty » Fri Jul 18, 2014 12:00 pm

-you'll want "Song of Spring" at 39trains
-leave dread dissonence at 1 point
-anthem of avoidance (the dmg absorber is fairly important)
-A few points in to molto retardando wouldnt hurt either.

If your feeling point tight then make it human.

for starters
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Re: Aelf Blademaster Bard

Post by Haliit » Fri Jul 18, 2014 12:02 pm

Damage absorber is Mage only, isn't it?

Human would help out a bit with trains, but how in the world do you fit in the trains to get to 111 Bardsong and 39 into SoS?

I think you're assuming this is a mage
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Re: Aelf Blademaster Bard

Post by tooshifty » Fri Jul 18, 2014 12:19 pm

Haliit wrote:Damage absorber is Mage only, isn't it?

Human would help out a bit with trains, but how in the world do you fit in the trains to get to 111 Bardsong and 39 into SoS?

I think you're assuming this is a mage
oy my bad your right....the dmg absorber requires sorcery.
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Re: Aelf Blademaster Bard

Post by bobcarn » Fri Jul 18, 2014 1:18 pm

Speccing out characters and keeping track of stat points isn't my strong point, but I thought I'd point out something. Countersong will cost 71 mana each time at that level. You may want to calculate how much mana you'll have at that level with a concoct potion and only 20 spirit so you can see how many times you can fire off Countersong along with your other abilities. Concocts give a lot of buffs to try to strip off of someone else.

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Re: Aelf Blademaster Bard

Post by Khal » Fri Jul 18, 2014 3:42 pm

-Take a 35 con, instead of HaaO and 25
-91 trains doesn't net you a % change, from 90
-Leave DD at 5, for dispell fake flight, and not waste your root f you don't have to, IMO
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Re: Aelf Blademaster Bard

Post by Haliit » Fri Jul 18, 2014 3:47 pm

Khal wrote:-91 trains doesn't net you a % change, from 90
Was just doing this on Pyetrek, I didn't think it should either but it changed the % on there, so that's how I did the last 2-3 points I had left.

Any other thoughts on the trains?
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Re: Aelf Blademaster Bard

Post by Khal » Fri Jul 18, 2014 4:11 pm

Might want to pull 20ish points from BM, and maybe 15ish from sword, for molto
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Re: Aelf Blademaster Bard

Post by Steffa97 » Fri Jul 18, 2014 5:27 pm

Haliit wrote:Never made a Bard before so I wanted to try one.

Focused on weapon damage (I've done way too many int/proc rogues). Would appreciate some critique/tips.

Aelfborn Rogue Bard

------Applied Runes-------

Lucky
Tough as Nails
Military Training
Healthy as an Ox
Great Constitution
Blade Master
Black Mask
Bounty Hunter
Legendary Dexterity

----------Stats-----------

Strength: 35/95
Dexterity: 155/155
Constitution: 130/130
Intelligence: 70/105
Spirit: 20/85

----------Skills----------

Wear Armor, Light 137% (96 trains)
Sword 129% (91 trains)
Dodge 130% (91 trains)
Bardsong 57% (30 trains)
Blade Mastery 131% (46 trains)*this % is with 2 for 1 Blademastery trains in RiF

----------Powers----------

Hide 18 (Journeyman)
Sneak 40 (Grand Master)
Ashton Kai's Irresistable Dance 20 (Journeyman)
Countersong 40 (Grand Master)
Dread Dissonance 5 (Beginner)
Pallando's Pernicious Puns 1 (Untrained)
Ragnor's Rede of Rending 40 (Grand Master)
Ritardando 40 (Grand Master)
Find Weakness 20 (Journeyman)
I'd say drop LA by 6 and sword and dodge by 1. 90>[trains]<134 is the 2 points : 1% category and the game doesn't round up. 3% out of LA might drop your defense by 15 and the single point out of sword and dodge won't do anything. Take those and put them into Feint IMO
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Re: Aelf Blademaster Bard

Post by Khal » Fri Jul 18, 2014 6:14 pm

If you don't take LA to at least 90 points, then Military Training is next to worthless.

Also, I hate Feint, it kills your dps. If you had a problem with high def, hit em with some countersongs and precise stance.
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Re: Aelf Blademaster Bard

Post by Steffa97 » Fri Jul 18, 2014 6:57 pm

Khal wrote:If you don't take LA to at least 90 points, then Military Training is next to worthless.

Also, I hate Feint, it kills your dps. If you had a problem with high def, hit em with some countersongs and precise stance.
Yeah, I agree with Feint to an extent at least. I'd still say put a point in it, worse comes to worse crippled damage is better than no damage should you be OOM for any reason.
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Re: Aelf Blademaster Bard

Post by Barfelonous » Tue Aug 12, 2014 4:45 pm

Khal wrote:Might want to pull 20ish points from BM, and maybe 15ish from sword, for molto
I would personally go this route as well. Bm isn't much of a support bard so I'd def train rit/molto rit if yer gonna be a ganker

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Re: Aelf Blademaster Bard

Post by unfringed » Sun Sep 14, 2014 9:32 am

Since you're talking RiF;

1) Get rat catcher. Too many nephs to neglect it.
2) GM hide. Sneak isn't instant.
3) Put a point in the BM aoe, it has much better ATR than puns and it's not a DoT so it won't break your own roots.
4) Get feint. It hurts your DPS, but it also allows you to get high atr without leaving def stance, which will win you rogue vs rogue fights.

With feint, rogue precise stance, and a level 30 def cut, buff stripping is not as necessary as it might be, so dropping Countersong and picking up Mighty Countersong is worth considering. You'll get more use out of the ability to strip def and atr cuts than you will removing someone's conc, which wastes time you usually don't have, and with the root nerf and as an aelf, Countersong's main draw is lessened by a lot.

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Re: Aelf Blademaster Bard

Post by Fleetness » Sun Sep 14, 2014 6:07 pm

If you only want to strip conc buffs and roots, you can drop Countersong to 35. If you just want it to remove roots off yourself, you can drop it to 20.

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Re: Aelf Blademaster Bard

Post by TheDude » Thu Apr 16, 2015 5:23 pm

Would this or a Ranger BM be better for solo/small scale stuff?

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