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Irekei Nightstalker

Post by Zile » Wed Jun 27, 2012 12:02 pm

am i going to be able to take sundancer??
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Re: Irekei Nightstalker

Post by 8Shade » Wed Jun 27, 2012 1:08 pm

You can take sundancer, but you can use only UA Mastery powers (rank 40) OR sundancing powers (only rank 20), not both anymore... The only build I would maybe use irekei for is a def build due to access to atr cut. But it is not necessary when you have dispel debuf.

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Re: Irekei Nightstalker

Post by Deathmarch » Sun Jul 01, 2012 5:05 pm

SD nightstalker is a PoS don't bother.

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Re: Irekei Nightstalker

Post by Zile » Tue Jul 03, 2012 2:54 am

Before the patch...a long time ago...My SD Dodge/Proc NS(Zile) kicked a$$...
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Re: Irekei Nightstalker

Post by aaronf » Tue Jul 03, 2012 3:19 am

Irekei Sundancer is not a PoS. Sure it isn't as good as it used to be, but its still a viable toon. And more so in soloing around the map. Correct me if im wrong here, but you have 3 extra stuns and 2 extra powerblocks 1 extra def cut, 1 extra bleed. The downside is not as high an ATR on your weapon.

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Re: Irekei Nightstalker

Post by Deathmarch » Wed Jul 04, 2012 3:42 pm

I'll rephrase. SD weapons are blatantly suboptimal, and dex monkey weapon-focused build is a PoS. I tried doing the latter, and it was garbage. Not enough def, not enough atr, and no synergy in the kit. Maybe it would be useful for dueling hybrid or caster NSes, but that's a dubious proposition at best.

There's no reason to go irekei for anything other than lore, and there's definitely no reason to go SD ever.

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Re: Irekei Nightstalker

Post by coolstream » Mon Aug 13, 2012 3:53 am

Irekei def sword stalker is viable, no where near as powerful as a normal human stalker however...
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Re: Irekei Nightstalker

Post by Nehemia » Tue Sep 11, 2012 7:55 am

coolstream wrote:Irekei def sword stalker is viable, no where near as powerful as a normal human stalker however...
A nice new way to rephrase "gimp".
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Re: Irekei Nightstalker

Post by coolstream » Mon Sep 24, 2012 1:18 pm

Nehemia wrote:
coolstream wrote:Irekei def sword stalker is viable, no where near as powerful as a normal human stalker however...
A nice new way to rephrase "gimp".
you could always make a high strength two handed sword stalker... who is also a procer :mrgreen:
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Re: Irekei Nightstalker

Post by Pimps » Thu Dec 20, 2012 5:13 pm

Deathmarch wrote:I'll rephrase. SD weapons are blatantly suboptimal, and dex monkey weapon-focused build is a PoS. I tried doing the latter, and it was garbage. Not enough def, not enough atr, and no synergy in the kit. Maybe it would be useful for dueling hybrid or caster NSes, but that's a dubious proposition at best.

There's no reason to go irekei for anything other than lore, and there's definitely no reason to go SD ever.
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Re: Irekei Nightstalker

Post by Johnny » Tue Jun 25, 2013 12:07 pm

Zile wrote:Before the patch...a long time ago...My SD Dodge/Proc NS(Zile) kicked a$$...
Im guessing thats the same build you myself and Kidsmeal Skah! about with? Cloth and 33% La procer?
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Re: Irekei Nightstalker

Post by Heyzeuss » Tue Jul 02, 2013 11:53 pm

If I were to build a SD NS it would be a dmg based build. High Dex/Con, even with lower Int the HoT is enough and having dispell debuff is clutch, but I wouldn't play it unless I was running with a group DMG chant. It's really the lack of access to a GM backstab that keeps me from playing a toon like this though.

Anything outside of something that... Human UA is better in every way.

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Re: Irekei Nightstalker

Post by Youngin » Tue Jul 09, 2013 12:49 pm

Deathmarch wrote:SD nightstalker is a PoS don't bother.
I'm Guessing you could never make a good SD....

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Re: Irekei Nightstalker

Post by dreaminshadow » Fri Nov 08, 2013 9:03 pm

I love nigthtstalker

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Re: Irekei Nightstalker

Post by Deathmarch » Fri Jan 10, 2014 1:19 am

too late now, but there's a thread in off-topic if you want easy PM access.

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Re: Irekei Nightstalker

Post by tooshifty » Fri Jan 10, 2014 1:29 am

Xhirs are faster than unarmed thus you will proc faster. So they have that going for them. Sd may be better for dps on con/int builds, but half the level in weapon powers is a dealbreaker for me.
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Re: Irekei Nightstalker

Post by Amaz » Fri Jan 10, 2014 1:39 am

tooshifty wrote:Xhirs are faster than unarmed thus you will proc faster. So they have that going for them. Sd may be better for dps on con/int builds, but half the level in weapon powers is a dealbreaker for me.
Nope, no difference in speed.

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Re: Irekei Nightstalker

Post by tooshifty » Fri Jan 10, 2014 1:53 am

Dafck? Well maybe I was just thinking of glass ua then . Sd need love. they went from being the strongest in game toons besides the old lightning channies to being not so amazing. Now I only ever use sd on mages and with bp.
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Re: Irekei Nightstalker

Post by Amaz » Fri Jan 10, 2014 3:54 am

Glass Cestas of the Vampyre is 20 like R'khans and KoP.

I think there are still some good SD builds, I like my SD dex monkey bard a lot.
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Re: Irekei Nightstalker

Post by Geckoz » Sat Mar 15, 2014 12:52 pm

Any constructive feedback on this please?

-------The Basics---------

Race: Irekei
Class: Rogue
Profession: Nightstalker

------Applied Runes-------

Taught by Master Thief
Lightning Reflexes
Hearty
Sold to the Pits
Dexterity of the Gods
Exceptional Constitution
Bounty Hunter
Black Mask
Rat Catcher
Saboteur

----------Stats-----------

Strength: 30/80
Dexterity: 190/190
Constitution: 100/100
Intelligence: 75/110
Spirit: 15/85

----------Skills----------

Unarmed Combat 154% (91 trains)
Wear Armor, Light 100% (57 trains)
Dodge 134% (91 trains)
Exorcism 118% (91 trains)
Unarmed Combat Mastery 70% (27 trains)
2 trains left

----------Powers----------

Hide 18 (Journeyman)
Sneak 40 (Grand Master)
Annoint Blade 40 (Grand Master)
Litany of Discretion 40 (Grand Master)
Stalker's Resilience 40 (Grand Master)
Put to the Torch 1 (Untrained)
Blessing of Dawn 40 (Grand Master)
Fortified Soul 40 (Grand Master)
Backstab 20 (Journeyman)
Trip 1 (Untrained)

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Re: Irekei Nightstalker

Post by unfringed » Sun Mar 16, 2014 6:48 pm

Way too much dexterity for something with all those int powers and that doesn't use defense. And unless you're using defense, human nightstalkers are superior by a large margin.

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Re: Irekei Nightstalker

Post by Khal » Sun Mar 16, 2014 8:43 pm

Geckoz wrote:Any constructive feedback on this please?

-------The Basics---------

Race: Irekei
Class: Rogue
Profession: Nightstalker

------Applied Runes-------

Taught by Master Thief
Lightning Reflexes
Hearty
Sold to the Pits
Dexterity of the Gods
Exceptional Constitution
Bounty Hunter
Black Mask
Rat Catcher
Saboteur

----------Stats-----------

Strength: 30/80
Dexterity: 190/190
Constitution: 100/100
Intelligence: 75/110
Spirit: 15/85

----------Skills----------

Unarmed Combat 154% (91 trains)
Wear Armor, Light 100% (57 trains)
Dodge 134% (91 trains)
Exorcism 118% (91 trains)
Unarmed Combat Mastery 70% (27 trains)
2 trains left

----------Powers----------

Hide 18 (Journeyman)
Sneak 40 (Grand Master)
Annoint Blade 40 (Grand Master)
Litany of Discretion 40 (Grand Master)
Stalker's Resilience 40 (Grand Master)
Put to the Torch 1 (Untrained)
Blessing of Dawn 40 (Grand Master)
Fortified Soul 40 (Grand Master)
Backstab 20 (Journeyman)
Trip 1 (Untrained)


So you want resist, dodge, procs, and no real casting other than debuffs, correct?
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Re: Irekei Nightstalker

Post by Badmoon » Fri May 02, 2014 9:41 am

Geckoz wrote:Any constructive feedback on this please?

-------The Basics---------

Race: Irekei
Class: Rogue
Profession: Nightstalker

------Applied Runes-------

Taught by Master Thief
Lightning Reflexes
Hearty
Sold to the Pits
Dexterity of the Gods
Exceptional Constitution
Bounty Hunter
Black Mask
Rat Catcher
Saboteur

----------Stats-----------

Strength: 30/80
Dexterity: 190/190
Constitution: 100/100
Intelligence: 75/110
Spirit: 15/85

----------Skills----------

Unarmed Combat 154% (91 trains)
Wear Armor, Light 100% (57 trains)
Dodge 134% (91 trains)
Exorcism 118% (91 trains)
Unarmed Combat Mastery 70% (27 trains)
2 trains left

----------Powers----------

Hide 18 (Journeyman)
Sneak 40 (Grand Master)
Annoint Blade 40 (Grand Master)
Litany of Discretion 40 (Grand Master)
Stalker's Resilience 40 (Grand Master)
Put to the Torch 1 (Untrained)
Blessing of Dawn 40 (Grand Master)
Fortified Soul 40 (Grand Master)
Backstab 20 (Journeyman)
Trip 1 (Untrained)

Wtf? This might be one of the worst builds I ever seen. Your spiking your dex and your not even high def? If you want to make something like this and not be high def, just go con/int. Nightstalkers do way more damage with their procs/proccing graces then they would with PoR graces. Plus your HoT will heal for more, and your nuke will be used. Without the nuke you have no chance of killing anyone that is far away or runs away from you. Remember, NS' only have one sprint, where thieves, scouts, rangers, huntresses, etc all have 2. Just my opinion.
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