Why not use anything but Dwarf - Reasons

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Why not use anything but Dwarf - Reasons

Post by ArkanisGath » Thu Jan 17, 2013 5:54 pm

Let us assume we have unlimited access to gold, stat and discipline runes.

Let us exclude following situations:

When we run with a flying group, we use aracoix for the purpose of flight.
When we use a centaur group, we use a centaur for the mobility.
When we are at no bane, no mine situation, and we want to practice survival techniques, we choose elf.
When we want to see for how much we can proc with a GM offense style healer, we go irekei sundancer or elf bladeweaver.

What other situations would use other race than dwarf?
Remember that we do not consider the cost of making the character, just pure combat value.

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Re: Why not use anything but Dwarf - Reasons

Post by Dyson » Thu Jan 17, 2013 6:47 pm

i use centaur when i want to have four legs, and i'd want to have four legs in every non-stack based open field engagement under 20v20
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Re: Why not use anything but Dwarf - Reasons

Post by ArkanisGath » Thu Jan 17, 2013 7:03 pm

That is mobilty, which i wanted to exclude, let us move on.

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Re: Why not use anything but Dwarf - Reasons

Post by Dyson » Thu Jan 17, 2013 7:21 pm

where are we moving to?
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Re: Why not use anything but Dwarf - Reasons

Post by ArkanisGath » Thu Jan 17, 2013 7:26 pm

Anything else but mobility (which is ,in this case, of an outstanding importance)

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Re: Why not use anything but Dwarf - Reasons

Post by Ajushi » Thu Jan 17, 2013 7:29 pm

If your game plan excludes all movement then, yes, dwarf is the race for you.
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Re: Why not use anything but Dwarf - Reasons

Post by Braxis » Thu Jan 17, 2013 11:29 pm

Human.

More int, more trains = better heals, higher block and stun atr.

Resists are better on dwarf, yes. But humans equal out simply because they have the trains to have more utility, i.e. gm root, effective stun (in terms of atr), and can still wear the same resist gear as a dwarf. Basically, caster bane won't affect you any differently, and if you're stupid enough to die to melee on a human, you'll do the same on a dwarf.
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Re: Why not use anything but Dwarf - Reasons

Post by Vivitron » Fri Jan 18, 2013 6:28 am

ArkanisGath wrote:That is mobilty, which i wanted to exclude, let us move on.
Just for horses, or did you want to exclude it for aelfs and birds as well?

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Re: Why not use anything but Dwarf - Reasons

Post by Cryfowl » Fri Jan 18, 2013 10:12 am

Braxis wrote:Human.

More int, more trains = better heals, higher block and stun atr.

Resists are better on dwarf, yes. But humans equal out simply because they have the trains to have more utility, i.e. gm root, effective stun (in terms of atr), and can still wear the same resist gear as a dwarf. Basically, caster bane won't affect you any differently, and if you're stupid enough to die to melee on a human, you'll do the same on a dwarf.
I second all of this ^^

In addition i'd like to add the one thing Brax forgot: Humans provide the ultimate in flexibility of build. You can steer a human priest build in any direction IE:high CON, high INT or HIgh SPI) all at creation and they not only get extra trains but with 0 stat cost at creation they also get more stat points than any other race.
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Re: Why not use anything but Dwarf - Reasons

Post by Dyson » Fri Jan 18, 2013 2:13 pm

Nope, human priests are pointless.

geddit?

no but they are tho
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Re: Why not use anything but Dwarf - Reasons

Post by Riffats » Mon Jan 28, 2013 6:47 pm

aelf for caster fights

human for caster fights

centaur for caster fights

elf for caster fights

aracoix for skirmishes
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Re: Why not use anything but Dwarf - Reasons

Post by Disortily » Wed Jun 05, 2013 1:38 am

human for the versatility

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Re: Why not use anything but Dwarf - Reasons

Post by spazgar » Thu Jun 06, 2013 11:40 am

Dyson wrote:Nope, human priests are pointless.

geddit?

no but they are tho
wut

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Re: Why not use anything but Dwarf - Reasons

Post by tooshifty » Thu Jun 06, 2013 12:23 pm

i vote HalfGiant Priest or vamp Priest! *inserts hack to access*

or in reality. human, because i can train a crap load, heal more and have room for heal resist debuff gm as well as all other things =P, and gold block.
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Re: Why not use anything but Dwarf - Reasons

Post by Stomplar » Sun Jun 09, 2013 12:46 pm

Aelfs lost their shine for me when the Incantation of Renunciation was introduced. Centaurs and Humans always held the top picks for me for field fights. Dorfs are beastly at banes theres no denying that. Usually when a player gets killed its either A) they were out played, B) Zerged, or C) shadowbane killed them. (Sb.exe) Race has little to do with it.

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Re: Why not use anything but Dwarf - Reasons

Post by spazgar » Mon Jun 10, 2013 5:35 pm

^ what
wut

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Re: Why not use anything but Dwarf - Reasons

Post by Free » Fri Jun 28, 2013 5:08 pm

If you want to exclude mobility, then there is no reason to go anything but dwarf.
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Re: Why not use anything but Dwarf - Reasons

Post by Heyzeuss » Tue Jul 02, 2013 11:48 pm

Ever since I started playing Centuar priest i'v never even looked back at my Dwarf or Aelfborn priest. Pro's don't need a higher HP buffer to cover up for the lack of skill :)

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Re: Why not use anything but Dwarf - Reasons

Post by Riffats » Wed Aug 21, 2013 12:24 am

Centaurs dwarfs and aracoix. Arguably human. the rest of the races are pleb. These 4 are the only ones that have something none of the others have
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Re: Why not use anything but Dwarf - Reasons

Post by Drenath » Sat Oct 19, 2013 8:54 pm

Dyson wrote:i use centaur when i want to have four legs, and i'd want to have four legs in every non-stack based open field engagement under 20v20
True story.

We also rolled with dwarves for mines/etc... because they're easy to conceal in a small stack, have a little extra wiggle room health-wise, and better resists. Cent priests weren't overly common for us, the few we used were usually stunners before cent windlords got the axe, more recently they were usually used as prelates/crusaders for mobile summons, %heals, etc...

HoE was always a big baning guild and fought a Skah! of them. Most of our core favored squishy casters and thus we stacked a lot. Dorfs and Elves both excel but were typically chosen based on def or off. Def banes were elves and offensive were dwarves.
Nope.

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Re: Why not use anything but Dwarf - Reasons

Post by Hemiironforge » Sat Oct 26, 2013 7:48 pm

I really just enjoy playing dwarves no matter which game, I don't need to have every point a certain way to be happy, just being active is enough for me.

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Re: Why not use anything but Dwarf - Reasons

Post by djbingo » Wed Oct 30, 2013 12:10 pm

i see none of ac priest.idk why
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