Does LoH stack with the Ur rune?

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Does LoH stack with the Ur rune?

Post by Namosa » Wed Jan 25, 2012 4:15 pm

The Sentinel Litany of Hedrusiel and the Ur rune( I believe thats the str buff from runecaster)

Well do they stack?
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Re: Does LoH stack with the Ur rune?

Post by Namosa » Wed Jan 25, 2012 4:54 pm

Namosa wrote:The Sentinel Litany of Hedrusiel and the Ur rune( I believe thats the str buff from runecaster)

Well do they stack?

Also, Do those stack with Beserker?
Do they stack with Werebear?
And do they stack with Barb Rage?
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Re: Does LoH stack with the Ur rune?

Post by Namosa » Wed Jan 25, 2012 5:04 pm

Namosa wrote:
Namosa wrote:The Sentinel Litany of Hedrusiel and the Ur rune( I believe thats the str buff from runecaster)

Well do they stack?

Also, Do those stack with Beserker?
Do they stack with Werebear?
And do they stack with Barb Rage?
Nevermind, Beserker and Barb Rage do not stack.
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Re: Does LoH stack with the Ur rune?

Post by Ajushi » Wed Jan 25, 2012 6:06 pm

No, yes, no, yes.
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Re: Does LoH stack with the Ur rune?

Post by Namosa » Wed Jan 25, 2012 6:12 pm

Ajushi wrote:No, yes, no, yes.

soooo ur and LoH dont stack?
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Re: Does LoH stack with the Ur rune?

Post by Rewen » Wed Jan 25, 2012 6:17 pm

I don't know. But I can tell you that these two spells have different stack flags. Theoretically, they should be able to stack with each other and the healer/conc strength buff. Also this thread might be better suited to the Sentinel forum!

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Re: Does LoH stack with the Ur rune?

Post by Namosa » Wed Jan 25, 2012 6:32 pm

Rewen wrote:I don't know. But I can tell you that these two spells have different stack flags. Theoretically, they should be able to stack with each other and the healer/conc strength buff. Also this thread might be better suited to the Sentinel forum!
true... I guess the reason I posted in here was because I was gonna use these 2 on a barb
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Re: Does LoH stack with the Ur rune?

Post by Cryfowl » Wed Jan 25, 2012 11:45 pm

I remember testing out the old Ur rune back when i built basher templates and if i remember it stacks with werebear or other forms and rages but I know it won't stack with 60's or a buff pot and therein lies the problem.

just a reminder - don't forget valkyre. it gives a whopping +25 to max str and that will stack with any and everything. Jus take it last at 75 cause of the INt drop. It's glitched too by the way and If you have all your trains spent before applying it it will lower your functioning INT but NOT you train levels.

The biggest all STR toon i ever found was a human fighter ranger - beserker, valkyre, werebear, (4th optional).
Starting runes -5 from all = Born of invorri, Blacksmith's apprentice, Giant's blood, Hero's STR. 11 points left over = 145 base str.

here's the stacking break down after lvl 75 with gear =
End results:
STR: 145(base max) + 25(valkyre) +40(Godly STR) + 12(gloves)+12(jester's cap) + 30(Brialla's Power) + 60(priest or bard buff) + 45(beserker rage) + 55(Hochbaar shape) +24(neck) + 48(rings) = 486 STR !!!

Theoretically you could take Increased STR for +3 more to max however if i remember they are broken and the godly rune in game overwrties them so they are a waste.

You should be able to adapt this easily enough for a barb. I used a barb version when i played lore server cause we were thief charter and couldnt have rangers. It should come out pretty close.
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Re: Does LoH stack with the Ur rune?

Post by mdub4200 » Thu Jan 26, 2012 1:01 am

enchanter could add a few more too if u got the sp and the rune slot

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Re: Does LoH stack with the Ur rune?

Post by Namosa » Thu Jan 26, 2012 7:55 am

I know the Ur rune works with 60s, but thanks, I completely forgot about Valkyrie.

Now just to find out if LoH stacks with those 2, and if so, all with barb rage?
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Re: Does LoH stack with the Ur rune?

Post by Rewen » Thu Jan 26, 2012 5:39 pm

mdub4200 wrote:enchanter could add a few more too if u got the sp and the rune slot
o_ o

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Re: Does LoH stack with the Ur rune?

Post by Namosa » Thu Jan 26, 2012 5:41 pm

Rewen wrote:
mdub4200 wrote:enchanter could add a few more too if u got the sp and the rune slot
o_ o

yeah I dont have enough space
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Re: Does LoH stack with the Ur rune?

Post by Beula » Thu Jan 26, 2012 10:49 pm

UR Rune, LoH, and the Barb Rage all stack. Pretty sure that UR rune and Hochbar's str buff's don't stack though. Not many things stack with a wereform's buffs.

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Re: Does LoH stack with the Ur rune?

Post by Namosa » Fri Jan 27, 2012 7:57 am

Beula wrote:UR Rune, LoH, and the Barb Rage all stack. Pretty sure that UR rune and Hochbar's str buff's don't stack though. Not many things stack with a wereform's buffs.

FINALLY, thanks for the answer haha.


And Cryfoul already said that valkyrie stacks with everything. So... Success.
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Re: Does LoH stack with the Ur rune?

Post by Cryfowl » Fri Jan 27, 2012 7:20 pm

mdub4200 wrote:enchanter could add a few more too if u got the sp and the rune slot
Yes - enchanter could net me +9 more but seeing as how the ranger can't take it that would force me to put it on the bash group bard. however the cooldown on it is insanely long and i was never patient enough to spend the 6 hours it would take to buff all 15 jewls on my 5 man bashgroup. They could tear down a mine in under 4 minutes as it is so no big loss.

But for the record with an enchanter bot you could get 9 more STR
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Re: Does LoH stack with the Ur rune?

Post by mdub4200 » Fri Jan 27, 2012 7:24 pm

its actually only one pt to get the str addition too so all u really need is a slot but in reality like u sed that shit makes no difference

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Re: Does LoH stack with the Ur rune?

Post by Skullsplitter » Wed Feb 01, 2012 12:32 am

Ur and Loh do stack with rage, but I dont think Loh and ur stack together. I had a friend who had a sent buff bot and it overrode my Ur. I could be wrong, but probably not.. or I'd already been on it. Also you can use ur or loh while in bear form, but not hochbear. thats probably obvious though
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Re: Does LoH stack with the Ur rune?

Post by Namosa » Wed Feb 01, 2012 8:13 am

Thoraxeskullsplitter wrote:Ur and Loh do stack with rage, but I dont think Loh and ur stack together. I had a friend who had a sent buff bot and it overrode my Ur. I could be wrong, but probably not.. or I'd already been on it. Also you can use ur or loh while in bear form, but not hochbear. thats probably obvious though

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Re: Does LoH stack with the Ur rune?

Post by coolstream » Fri Feb 03, 2012 3:27 am

IIRC a HG raging bear barb can get the most STR... i forget which stacks with what tho...

You also forgot to include the lame vampire disc transform buff that you can dispell the snare from...

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Re: Does LoH stack with the Ur rune?

Post by Deathmarch » Fri Feb 03, 2012 9:18 pm

I've answered this in the ranger forums, but I'll answer it again, just to make sure that horse is dead for sure.



Ur Rune does not stack with Litany.

Ur Rune does not stack with Werebear or any Wereform

Ur Rune does not stack with Braialla's Power

Ur Rune does not stack with Phaedra's Fury

Ur Rune stacks with Berserker rage

Ur Rune stacks with Priest/Bard buffs

Ur Rune stacks with Barbarian Rage



Litany does not stack with Ur Rune

Litany does not stack with Werebear or any Wereform

Litany does not stack with Braialla's Power

Litany does not stack with Phaedra's Fury

Litany stacks with Berserker rage

Litany stacks with Priest/Bard buffs

Litany stacks with Barbarian rage




I have tested most of these myself, and the ones I didn't test personally I am still 100% certain about. This is going to be the clearest and most definitive answer you will get on the specific powers Ur Rune and Litany of Hedrusiel. There are no other relevant strength buffs to mention, as Thrangdan's Lesson is flagged as a frenzy.

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Re: Does LoH stack with the Ur rune?

Post by coolstream » Fri Feb 03, 2012 9:25 pm

This is one of those times where if there was a rep feature in these forums I would still not rep you because this is SB and we're all ass-hats.
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Re: Does LoH stack with the Ur rune?

Post by Deathmarch » Fri Feb 03, 2012 9:35 pm

I don't do these things for rep, I do these things because I'm an asshat who takes immense pleasure out of correcting people who don't know what they're talking about.

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Re: Does LoH stack with the Ur rune?

Post by Cryfowl » Sun Feb 05, 2012 7:53 pm

coolstream wrote:IIRC a HG raging bear barb can get the most STR... i forget which stacks with what tho...

You also forgot to include the lame vampire disc transform buff that you can dispell the snare from...

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HAhA i used to love that spell. I used to randomly go through safezones and cast it on unsuspecting scouts. They hated that snare lol

I assume it counts as a wereform and wouldn't stack with werebear. but it does give +55 at JM. But with a 10 minute cooldown and only 5 min duration I'd not be tempted to use it on my bashers.
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Re: Does LoH stack with the Ur rune?

Post by Heyzeuss » Mon Mar 12, 2012 7:08 am

Deathmarch wrote:I've answered this in the ranger forums, but I'll answer it again, just to make sure that horse is dead for sure.



Ur Rune does not stack with Litany.

Ur Rune does not stack with Werebear or any Wereform

Ur Rune does not stack with Braialla's Power

Ur Rune does not stack with Phaedra's Fury

Ur Rune stacks with Berserker rage

Ur Rune stacks with Priest/Bard buffs

Ur Rune stacks with Barbarian Rage



Litany does not stack with Ur Rune

Litany does not stack with Werebear or any Wereform

Litany does not stack with Braialla's Power

Litany does not stack with Phaedra's Fury

Litany stacks with Berserker rage

Litany stacks with Priest/Bard buffs

Litany stacks with Barbarian rage




I have tested most of these myself, and the ones I didn't test personally I am still 100% certain about. This is going to be the clearest and most definitive answer you will get on the specific powers Ur Rune and Litany of Hedrusiel. There are no other relevant strength buffs to mention, as Thrangdan's Lesson is flagged as a frenzy.
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Re: Does LoH stack with the Ur rune?

Post by NinetyL » Sun Mar 18, 2012 6:08 pm

Cryfowl wrote:
coolstream wrote:IIRC a HG raging bear barb can get the most STR... i forget which stacks with what tho...

You also forgot to include the lame vampire disc transform buff that you can dispell the snare from...

Float like a brick hit like a freight train!
HAhA i used to love that spell. I used to randomly go through safezones and cast it on unsuspecting scouts. They hated that snare lol

I assume it counts as a wereform and wouldn't stack with werebear. but it does give +55 at JM. But with a 10 minute cooldown and only 5 min duration I'd not be tempted to use it on my bashers.
I'm pretty sure I remember they made the snare component on that gorgoi transformation to be undispellable in some patch before shutdown... that makes it an even nastier snare, theoretically :lol:

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Re: Does LoH stack with the Ur rune?

Post by iconclick » Thu Oct 10, 2013 9:58 am

I think it is a best way

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